Burst Your Bubble
Posted November 25th, 2009 in Real Estate, Sharing the Experience | 
You Did Ask!
Derek Holt and Karen Cordes economists with the Scotiabank Group have
compiled an enlightening report entitled ‘Is There a Canadian Housing Bubble?‘
Meaty in its reading, Holt and Cordes’ evaluation of the Canadian Real Estate Market stands beyond
the scope of this post.
With due respect to Holt,Cordes and Scotia Group, this
author provides a synopsis while offering the entire report for your consideration.






More charts in Full Report
Highlights:
How Rich is the Market?
“Canadian house prices are rich no matter how one looks at it, but they are
likely to become richer yet before material risks emerge later next year and
beyond.”
A: Doesn’t Matter Which Scale – It’s Heavy
Affordability.
- Only compares present home ownership
- does not address fair value of the asset
History Perspective – Chart 1
- Current vs past house prices
- average price more than double in this decade
US versus Canada – Chart 2
- equalizes the picture
- no matter the view, house prices are high –
- up 86% this decade
Adjusting the Field – Chart 3
- compares house prices to broader economy prices –
- 70% rise this decade
Price to Rent – Chart 4
- shows own vs rent at all time high but they say:
- “Note that one should only pay attention to the trends in this chart.
We’re comparing prices to the rental component of CPI, so the level of the
measure means nothing.”
Price to Income – Chart 5
- at all time high but, they say:
- “it is somewhat analogous to a carrying cost calculation but not one that is
skewed by emergency low levels of interest rates as standard affordability
calculations.”
Nobody Missed the Party – Chart 6
- Toronto and Vancouver 1/5 of Canadian market but, they say:
- Regardless, all Provinces have experienced a strong pace of price gains
since house prices started to rise at the beginning of the decade
B: Volume
Sales//Supply – Chart 7
- “high resale prices is a combination of a sharp, concentrated sales
recovery alongside tight supply conditions”
Renovations- Chart 8
- “It was high before Federal incentives kicked in, but they have probably
helped insulate against other down-sides in keeping the volume of spending
elevated”
Inventory – Chart 9
- “new monthly listings depressed, the total stock of listed properties in
relation to current selling rates is also very low”
5 Things but only “Once in a Century”
1. No Expiration
- “Canadian housing stimulus programs are not structured like they are in
other countries in that they relatively lack expiration dates.”
2. Liberalized Mortgages
- “brings into the market people at an earlier stage than would otherwise be
the case, and purchasing more expensive than average properties”
3. Rising Interest Rates
- “Low interest rates are driving healthy affordability right now,but this
effect will wane in the next 2-4 years”
4. No Supply
- “likely to respond and ratchet higher on both listings and new home
construction next year”
5. Over and Out
- “long past the point at which strength can be attributed to unleashed
pent-up demand from last Fall” - “surprise is that prices didn’t stay down”
Canadian Mortgage Market Changing
What we Have
- “off cycle compared to other countries”
- “stronger banks”
- “prudent regulations”
- “good management”
- “strong structure”
Since 2006
- material innovation
- significant impact
- thin mortgage data
Amortization
- “it was 25 or bust until three years ago when 30, 35, and 40 year
amortizations became available. Now, after just three years, 18% of
outstandings are over 25 yrs. 10% are 35-40 years.”
Equity Withdrawal
- “18% of Canadians withdrew equity from their homes over the past year. The
average amount was $41k, and the total was $46 billion. 52% of those
withdrawing equity used some for debt consolidation, 40% used some for renos,
13% used some for purchases/education, 16% for investments, and 9% for other
reasons like consumption”
Terms
- “often unrecognized, fixed in Canada is not like fixed in the US”
- “US borrowers have relatively juicy rates for the long haul”
Other Things
- survey low balls the subprime share of the market
- forms of innovation are nothing close to the mistake of mass-marketing
what were at best niche products like Ninja mortgages
US vs Canadian Mortgage – the Differences
- “night and day apart”
- “Canada’s subprime market is small – isn’t anywhere near as exposed”
- “isn’t even really subprime per se. Canada’s subprime market is more like
the U.S. near-prime market” - “Canada never had the zero-rate teasers that existed in the U.S.”
- “Canada’s mortgage equity withdrawal market is much smaller”
- deductible – “vastly different incentives to leverage oneself in the two
markets” - “innovation was needed in Canada, but has been relatively more
conservative” - investor mortgages – magnitude of the exposure in Canada is far less
significant - funding model is completely different
- majority of the securitized totals have been done through the CMHC
- Canadian financial institutions are not as reliant upon short-term lines
- Canada MBS investors do not face the same heavily leveraged investor risks
- Canadian banks continue to apply prudent underwriting standards
- Appraisal standards are generally higher in Canada
- Canada provides recourse to lenders unlike the U.S.
How Much is Yours?
- Canadian household debt relative to incomes is high by the country’s own
historical norms - no doubt that the consumer bankruptcy picture is deteriorating in Canada
and so are mortgage delinquencies - remain far lower than that experienced in other major markets
BoC Implications
The Question – “would accelerating home prices
materially affect inflation risks, given that the BoC is among the stricter
inflation-targeting central banks?” Their Answer – “not likely.” Why?
- Canadian price index – “total owned accommodation accounts for about 16%.”
- According to the ‘Shelter table’ – “Replacement cost on its own accounts
for a small 3-4% of the total CPI basket, and aligns most closely with new
home prices.” - “resale prices do not directly show up in the consumer price index.”
- “it is not at all inconceivable that the pace of house price gains will
come to slow in any event for reasons” [noted above] - Dollar value “more important influences on imported components of the CPI
basket than housing.” - “BoC candid in acknowledging a strong domestic economy, against which is
weighed the fully offsetting influences of a strong Canadian dollar” - “BoC’s latest projections have housing flat-lined on a contribution to GDP
growth basis in 2010 and 2011 such that their clearly communicated concern
thus far has been that housing strength won’t last.” - “BoC has little reason to be concerned as yet – little concern over credit
growth in Canada”
*Disclaimer: All information, quotes, graphs Courtesy Scotiabank Group. All
trademarks are the property of Scotiabank
** Full Scotia Group Report
***CBC Report
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Great overview of this report Larry. Thanks.
It is quite amazing they provide all of these damning facts and then dont outright say “we have a bubble”. Almost all of their facts scream “BUBBLE!!!” and all of their comentary is things like “BoC has little reason to be concerned as yet – little concern over credit growth in Canada”
I guess the comments must be taken with a grain of salt (or a whole shaker full) because they make money off of people buying homes. While it would be very moral of them to say “dont use 35 year mortgages and plan for interest rates to double by the time you renew”, it wouldnt make a whole bunch of business sense. After all, the CMHC (taxpayers) assume all of the risk anyway.
Considering they want people to buy homes this report is really about as negative as they could get. They try to downplay the bad side with their comments but the facts speak for themselves. Pretty much everything is at an all time high, both real and nominal, so I dont see how any logical person could look at these numbers and not agree we are in a bubble and prices will have to come back down to norms at some point in the future.
Norm,
Even though it may have vested interest coming from the bank I thought it one of the better over views of all the issues. Hopefully, others will see it in the same vein.
David
Not sure that the report itself should be dismissed as a grain of salt.
Viewed as a comprehensive report it struck me more as a compendium of issues affecting and effecting real estate which I think, even you would agree, a great many people may not be aware of. As such, it has it’s place.
Continuing, not to defend their position as a purveyor of financial instruments including mortgages, the business of being in a business of selling things for a profit in and of itself precludes saying to a customer in an outright manner – don’t buy this! That choice always remains within the domain of the customer. For the customer, being informed is the big hurdle. To that end once again I think, this report biased or otherwise, adds perspective.
Not the whole report Larry, just the comments they make. The facts are facts and cant really be changed (unless you just plain lie or make stuff up).
And I don’t know if we think “grain of salt” means the same thing. Wiki says “In common parlance, if something is to be taken with a grain of salt, it means that a copious measure of skepticism should be applied regarding a claim.” So I just meant that people shouldn’t blindly accept their comments. People should look at the facts and draw their own conclusions. All in all I think it is a great report and you did a good job summing it up.
I agree that people should get informed when they buy things. I guess I am more careful than the average person because I researched my TV purchase for a week before I bought. I don’t even plan on buying a home for a couple of years (depending on the market and what I want in life) and I have already started researching!
A friend from work told me he was looking for a place as he recently married. Him and his new wife both lived at home until that time. I asked him why he didnt rent for a while as he didnt even know if he wanted a 1 bedroom in Burnaby or a house in Langley. It is tough to tell what you want when you have only lived with family for your whole life. He thought renting was a waste of money. I sent him some facts, much like this report and advised he take his time as the first home is one of the biggest financial decisions in life. He said he read one or two and got rushed into buying a 4 bed townhouse in Surrey the next week. The developer (it was a new place) told him there was already 2 offers on the place but the financing didnt go through. He threw down his offer and moved in the next month.
Not to say he got ripped off, but I think rushing into a house purchase is something that is seen far too often these days. People spend more time Christmas shopping than house shopping.
Dave,
Re grain of salt.
Noticed was the skepticism. Nothing wrong with that when certainty is at question. If needed, I’ll lend you my tiara – it’s polished daily in this business.
This is going to sound a bit trite but, if your game is to buy and have a ‘home’ then, from my perspective, there really isn’t a time that is better than the other – the long run will look after you. If your gig is investing that is another story.
Re your friend and the developer – if the offers didn’t go through because the property did not appraise he may have a problem. ** Understand that included in the reference to appraisal, is the exposure that the bank might have ie: the others only had 5% down and worked part time. At 50% down and a career job the exposure dynamic for the bank would change quickly.
Just to be cheeky – re: ripped off – considering the divorce rate in this country the risk factor probably isn’t the real estate.
Thanks for the warm fuzzies.