Mud Slides

Power Struggle

Word from one street suggests that an age old power struggle is beginning to take shape between buyers and sellers. Buyers in the know, are aware that the Vancouver real estate market is about to enter the final act of morphing into a buyers market. Street discussion says that the first new market adventurers are arriving at negotiation tables with lower than asking price offers.

The Sellers on the other hand, who, now late to the game – as evidenced by the tremendous number of listings coming to market, are much like a rock in the road, refusing to understand that the Vancouver real estate market is beginning it’s slide downhill.

Classic

Mud Slide Rock – Photo Credit: Damian Dovarganes/Associated Press

This battle always happens when the market changes. It usually means double trouble.

First, the sellers, have for many months heard and have been supported in their belief that they would get either asking or above asking offers.

Second, in this period of flux current data used to establish the price of a new listing does not yet reflect sufficient sales with prices below ask to become a trend. Data change is historical and follows the market mood of people so that by the time it is recorded it is often too late. It takes a front page newspaper notation to make this part of the human nature/data equation complete more quickly.

The beginnings are a classic moment of struggle to reach consensus between Realtor® and Seller to establish a market price that will work. Without rock hard data, few sellers will admit, that based on an opinions dug from Realtor® trenches, they may have already surrendered to the last great real estate price surge.

The Oz Opinion

Ozzie Jurock points out you don’t have to look far to find that lower prices are rolling in.

  1. The overall average price (condos, houses, townhouses) is down from March’s $693,500 to April’s $674,410 or lower by 3%.
  2. The average used home price is down from $999,500 to $986,900 – lower by 2%.
  3. The average used condo price is down from $427,500 to $417,800 – lower by 2.5%
  4. Active used condo listings (all listings still for sale from as far back as February and including April) are up for the first time in over a year – and up substantially – by +38% (from 4,435 to 6144) and used condo NEW listings (listed in April only) are up by a whopping 91%! (1,557 to 2995!). Used home NEW listings are also way up by 68% (from 1,816 to 3,011).
  5. Overall – all property – active listings are now also up by 18% – a sharp turnaround and a far cry from the huge decreases reported in the last few months. For the last 9 months we have been showing that lower listing inventories and large increases in volume had an effect on prices – as in higher. And rise they did. NOW, we have the opposite – higher listings and lower volumes … clearly pre-telling a leveling or downturn in prices.
  6. ©Ozzie Jurock May 05 2010

Mud Slides

The result is that Realtors® are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We know the market is changing and we know that the correct action current sellers should take in order to get the most money for their property, is to act quickly to stay ahead of the future mud slide of falling prices. Yet, when this scenario is played out in front of sellers their reticence to believe that change is upon us precludes them from making a prudent decision.

As if stomping their feet will stop the change often this situation creates this counter response – ‘if we don’t get the price we want, then we’ll just take it off the market.’ To a Realtor®, hearing these words is similar to climbing a mud slide in motion. Regardless of efforts to assist in understanding, you always end up flat on the road under a big rock with few options. It’s either become an annoyance to that seller and persist in seeking weekly price reductions or cancel the listing.

Staged Marketing

Realtors® can’t change a market but when selling, it is inevitable that things work better if there is a marketing plan. While the choice of each Realtor® is to accept or decline ‘mud slide’ listings, there is if reason prevails, an alternative.

I refer to it as a staged marketing plan. Such a plan when agreed to by both the seller and the agent allows for quick adjustments in a changing market. Included in the plan is an optimum price and a bottom price. The optimum’s objective is to get the seller the most money in the shortest time. A staged plan is premised on predefined periods during which price re-scheduling is to take place should the home not sell. The plan is one the Seller must clearly understand has but one goal – to get their home sold at the best price possible in the shortest time.

Ayn does not mean Any

Sellers in any market know they do not have to accept an offer that does not meet their aspirations however, if the objective is to sell, then it should also be clear, that you can’t always get what you want.

In the words of Ayn Rand (1905 – 1982) -

‘You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’

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*Disclaimer: Statistics Courtesy REBGV. While believed to be accurate they are not guaranteed.

**Numbers provided may vary as they are dynamically posted by the REBGV.

Reader Comments:

Boombust Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 7:34 am

I must say, Larry, this boom has lasted FAR longer than most diehard bears would have liked.

I suppose the cheapo rates in the past two years brought future demand forward and…wait for it…the “Olympic illusion” has turned to dust.

How many people can you recall who thought the Olympics would result in an even more spectacular RE boom?

Please share any anecdotes.

Samsonite Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 8:15 am

Great post. Bang on. Although you are (although you are aware of this) not highlighting enough how this ‘mudslide’ will be more like the avalanche of a generation….

Ayn Rand – I’ve read Fountainhead (once) and Atlas Shrugged (twice). AS is the better (and more difficult) read, I will force my children to read it at a young age (although I’m not as ‘capitalistic’ as Ayn, I’m a liberal conservative, and believe in social safety nets, just not too many and not too cushy), etc…but great quote, I’m going to pull this one out and use it – thanks!

May 10th, 2010 at 8:37 am

@Boombust
- it’s a tough call to make in terms of intent -
when speaking with mortgage brokers aside from new financing for a home purchase there has been what I understand is greater ratio of re-financing and that begs the question-
is the refininancing an effort to save money on interest (which makes sense) or, is it to extend the ATM (your house) to another level of good times?
If it is the latter – “Welcome to Greece”.

@Samsonite
Avalanche – a mudslide is just that but uses different material.

vomitingdog Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 9:55 am

Great post Larry. Great insights into seller psyche. In this town, however, sellers are in the habit of pulling product off the market and waiting 6-18 mos to get their dream asking price. A lot of them will surely go this way, don’t you think?

May 10th, 2010 at 10:01 am

@vomitingdog
that is possible and thus a new dynamic to watch in the next 30 – 120 days. Will the inventory of listings drop and why?

May 10th, 2010 at 10:02 am

@Larry

Timely advice from someone who clearly understands market fundamentals and the conflicted-seller.

Samsonite Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 11:35 am

VD

Listings drop?

I don’t think so.

May 10th, 2010 at 11:49 am

@Samsonite
never underestimate the power of gravity. :)

vomitingdog Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 11:56 am

That’s my concern, Luggage Man.

They’ve done it before and they can do it again, after July 1st. The real interesting time for bears will be after Labour Day weekend.

Bearknowitall Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

Larry, nice try.

Unfortunately bears have no properties for sale.

Haha.

May 10th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

Bearknowitall-
Privacy laws preclude you having a sign that says For Sale by Bear :)

Samsonite Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 1:34 pm

VD,

You worry about nothing. Think about the factors that lead the last (surprising – as were the factors) change in market – what do you think will ‘save’ things this time? Record low rates?

This time, my patient friend, its for real.

CGD Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

I agree with Samsonite. The last rebound was buyers returning and not sellers cancelling listings. The market corrected 15% but the number one factor was the prime rate being cut 50%.

Bob Lucas Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

Here is a possible counterpoint: Economy may grow (think natural resources, export, homegrown technological advances). Is the Lower Mainland well-positioned for this? It is not consistent to be bullish on our local economic growth prospects and be bearish on real estate value in the _long term_.

Bob Lucas Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

The other, and more unfavorable outcome imho, is that the Euro crisis exacerbates a global recovery and interest rates stay low. That would really put our market between a rock and a hard place.

Best place on meth Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

If sellers want to stamp their feet and pull their listings because they don’t get the price they demand, they can go right ahead. They won’t be bailed out by falling interest rates this time so they can hold their breath all the way to the poorhouse.

Meanwhile, the serious sellers will be the ones driving prices down as they react accordingly to a changing marketplace.

fish10 Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

Numbers Larry…numbers

May 10th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

@fish
You watching my house? Psychic if you ask me. :)

Numbers seem to be lining up with today’s post. Suspect a lot of price changes.

fish10 Says:
May 10th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

Yup. If I didn’t know better, I would suspect you wrote the piece and then waited for a low sales/ list day to post it. :)

A few more of these and the mood will certainly swing.

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