This is a Shout!
Posted February 4th, 2010 in Real Estate, Sharing the Experience
WARNING: This is a Rant.
Further warning. This will no doubt sound righteous however, the intent is to serve as a precaution to be very diligent when shopping for a home.
As a REALTOR® there seems to be an increasing number of times that you come across homes that simply defy comprehension.
Such was a case this week when a client requested to view a listing. The specific property is located in the Knight street area, it is new, it is the back half of a duplex.
- it is 1200 square feet
- it is beautiful,
- it is stunning
- it is a must see and
- you’ll love the energy efficient windows and last,
- it is new and priced at a cool $568,000 with mortgage helping bachelor suite
Let the Light In |
oops the drill bigger than hole |
chip out some wood for accent |
pain should be on the wall |
un-fitted dry wall & drips(fuzzy pic) |
brush marks painted rail |
Excited
All seems good. The descriptive adjectives are exciting. They had the client in a tizzy as she dreamed about the possibility of a new home with a little mortgage helper.
That it took five phone calls to the listing REALTOR®. Starting on day one at 1:30 p.m. and finally having him answer his cell phone the next day on the sixth call at 10:05 a.m., was the first warning – one that was ignored.
First Rodeo
Now folks it needs saying that working with new construction is not my first rodeo. During the career I have seen the best and up until now I thought, I had seen the worst. This particular property was a new low in layout functionality, all aspects of workmanship including painting, dry wall, woodwork, flooring and not to be overtly critical the materials used. One has to assume water came out of the faucets but, there were so many other issues it just wasn’t worth flushing the toilet for fear of having a flood.
The Things You See
Approaching the front of the home one notices the vinyl decking cover is already peeling away from the deck’s drip flashing. Climbing the stairs to the main entrance you find another drip flashing already tipping due to incorrect installation.
Opening the Door
Entering the home you are within the first 3 feet, greeted with madness. Paint drips abound on the new inexpensive laminate floor, hand railings and styles. The paint is plastered thick on the walls suggesting a single coat application. Brush strokes covered bad mudding on corner beads at every turn. Hand rails requiring drill holes to affix the railing had large wood splinters surrounding the holes to the extent that the cover buttons could not conceal the damage and in one instance the screw holding the railing was visable. Just so you know, that is not how it is supposed to be and is a clear sign of terrible workmanship!
Crooked
The security panel, to large for the area to which it was affixed was unceremoniously planted on top of the door casings. The solution – use longer screws now visable, to hold it in place. A window in the dining room was actually installed askew. Using the trusty iphone level to confirm what my eyes were seeing, found that the lean of the window exceeded over one inch in thirty. That, is a very obvious dip in your sill!
Big Enough for a Squirrel
As to that mortgage helper, please pardon my snark as you visualize a room that is recorded on the MLS® as being 143 square feet. Not specified, but having viewed it, one assumed it included the bathroom and storage space.
Let the Light In
Last is the window in the stairwell. Certain it is that this must be considered a feature. Problem its a perfect place for a toddler to fall into and it’s a long way down to the next level. Alternatively, it is a testament to the ability of this builder to buy a correctly sized window for the space required. The rationale, “oh isn’t that nice to have natural light on both stairs.” It’s hard to tell what they were thinking other than cheap.
It’s suspect that if any buyer were they to itemize the ‘outstanding’ issues in this property would be drawing up a deficiency list amounting to 50 pages. Most important, based on the lack of attention given to the building of this home should clearly serve as indication of what any buyer should expect when seeking remedy.
Expectations
It seems obvious that the builder is hoping that some uninformed, uncaring REALTOR® will seek to convince their unknowing, unaware buyer that this home is a worthy purchase. Sadly, in acknowledgement of the apples in this profession, that will be the case. With dismay, considering the state of the market, one can expect this to happen soon.
Reflecting, the visit to this home left visions of attending a home buying funeral whereupon the best condolence to be offered to an unsuspecting buyer is “you have my deepest sympathies.”
Enough Already
The point of this rant is to note that sometimes you just got to wonder if this is what ‘economical’ housing means. New does not necessarily imply it is a good buy. At $568,000 this house in my opinion, had crap written all over it. At every point of reference in the home you could find obvious fault or inadequacy. It was impossible to recall a new home as poorly finished as this and which intrinsically, suggests potential issues within other areas not seen.
The warning as such, is that no thinking person should engage themselves with a product that has so many problems. Problems that are not easy nor inexpensive to make right. The issues outlined and so many more herein unrecorded, were so obvious as to render pains of astonishment that a home like this could be constructed and received a stamp of approval from city inspectors.
Thanks for listening. I’m better now!
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Let the Light In
oops the drill bigger than hole
chip out some wood for accent
pain should be on the wall
un-fitted dry wall & drips(fuzzy pic)
brush marks painted rail





All for over $560 cool ones. We truly live in the twilight zone in Vancouver.
behold the 8th wonder of the world, Vancouver real estate, resilient in price if not in construction.
Hey Larry, a great rant. A stunning example of a place that looks good in mls, but simply does not measure up. Will be interesting to see if it sells and for how much.
larry i bet it goes fast and over list
just to highlight how crazy this market is
although….your sell/list is making me wonder (hope!) that perhaps it won’t be so easy for the crap to get scooped up by panicked buyers who MUST buy now (or forever be priced out…you know the drill).
enjoyed your rant, it was instructive. caveat emptor and all of that.
Larry
Thanks for adding REBGV whole area stats.
T+C
Someone call Mike Holmes so he can tear the builder a new one on national TV! I wonder if anyone’s ever successfully sued city inspectors for approving trash like this. Just goes to show that even if a house is new, you should still get it properly inspected.
“it is 1200 square feet
it is beautiful,
it is stunning
it is a must see and
you’ll love the energy efficient windows and last,
it is new and priced at a cool $568,000 with mortgage helping bachelor suite
All seems good.”
What? 568K for 1/4 of a house? It is 1200sf including the suite? Making it somewhere around 1050sf?
Man if all of the house pieces had a suit that would be 8 places! All on a lot made for 1 or maybe 2 houses. Sorry but all does not seem good so far.
Oh man 143sf suit?!?! And it was news about the 275sf ones that are being built. I think my storage and bathroom alone are bigger than that. Good luck getting 400 a month for that as a mortgage “helper”. Given the payments will be in the range of 3K that will hardly make a dent.
Oh and I have a buying horror story. A co-worker paid almost 400K for a townhouse in surrey! Man 7 years ago that could get you a house in east Van.
Ugh. What a freakshow.
calling this guy a builder is almost criminal
“real” builders will take umbrage and retaliate
revenge will be sweet and permanent…….
Some of the tiniest, crappiest hotel rooms I’ve stayed at in 3rd world countries were still bigger than that mortgage helper.
Not to worry though, a bidding war should erupt shortly.
Knight St. is the best place on earth, after all.
blueskies -
it would be nice to see more quality builders out there. Problem is I ’suspect’ is that they like many here are waiting for things to settle out. At least the man I have worked with won’t play in this market.
Meth – at least there were doors separating the bath. Maybe that is the bonus. BTW hotplate only and no hood fan.
Boombust – what is the freakshow? This blog or the post? Clarify please.
davers – lot is 33 x 124 = max FSR 2455.2. Don’t know if there was allowance given for the ‘eco’ green of having electric car plugs in the garage.
John – Mike Holmes – yup it would be a show worth watching. It would be a Emmy winner in about 5 years as issues really start to ‘mature’.
DH – here to serve
Forgot to mention – it would have taken an extra 33 inches of wall (2 studs and a bit of wallboard), to separate the kitchen from the living room and dining room. That wasn’t done so the refridgerator sits in the middle of the living room – total class IMO! On the other hand – if you ar a full on couch potato and like to be able to reach your beer and snacks without getting up – consider it a total bonus!
The house. of course. Silly.
Thanks Larry, this is great stuff!
@Dan – welcome